concentrated-sunshine:
stevenpartridgequill:
I’ve got an idea for an optional rule that solves D&D 5E’s mid-level power creep. Let’s talk about Cap 10.
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Hmm, I don’t think I’ve really had this issue but most of my campaigns never really got higher than 11ish I think.
Any thoughts @listener-blue , I know you’re really opposed to multiclassing.
I’m not opposed to multiclassing. I just have never seen the point of doing it constantly for the sake of essentially metagaming. I mean I don’t imagine anyone (many people) roll characters as ridiculous as you used to for NWN2 where you multiclassed into practically everything, but I personally could never bring myself to multiclass just for the sake of making my character more powerful if it didn’t make sense for the character in terms of how I see them as a person.
For example, I toyed with multiclassing Jayne into wizard because it would sort of have made sense for him and the new Monk order etc. But I didn’t go with it in the end because the fight for Jayne in terms of his story line was for acceptance by the monastery - that they didn’t see him as pure enough to follow their order -so multiclassing out of monk would have been a betrayal to that in my mind.
Having said that, if I go with the wizard I’m thinking about building for the next campaign I will almost certainly multiclass into fighter because the story I have in my head for him is that he was built to be a fighter so it would make sense for him to have some training in that area. Also he is a big beefy fella, it almost doesn’t seem right that he’s a wizard, that’s sort of the point of the build, therefore it would make absolute sense to multiclass that particular character.
Obviously the video here is not talking about multiclassing for the sake of pure out power, in fact it’s quite the opposite - it’s almost to avoid that. It’s hard for me to assess this really, since we have only done one campaign in 5e and not reached those higher levels.
Just looking at the Monk briefly I think it would be a real shame if I had been forced to multiclass Jayne because the higher level features would really have brought him the purity he struggled to find as a monk, and had he not been allowed to continue levelling as a monk would he really have achieved that and had the respect of the masters who once shunned him?
It seems like this video focuses more on magic users than anything else, and sure the high level spells are massively powerful. But even at level 20 you only end up with 1 lvl8 and 1 lvl9 spell slot, and you don’t get your lvl9 slot until you’re level 17, so it’s not like you would be constantly blasting out those crazy powerful spells every turn. Having said that we’d have to really play some higher level characters to see how that works at the table, so in terms of that I can’t really relate to the power creep that’s being talked about here.
The other thing is with the stat cap of 20 (unless you have feats or magic items ofc) I think that would already do a lot to stop the power creep, though I don’t know for sure as, again, we haven’t played to higher levels. Plus I have never DM’d or even looked at the DM guide/monster manual so I don’t know where the monster stats go with level in terms of how that affects our to hit.
Lastly for us as a group now that we are rolling for stats rather than using an array or point spend system we won’t end up with purposely min/maxed characters like we used to. I mean, in 4e one of the first thing I thought about when building a character was which stat I’d dump. I’m glad that’s gone, and of course the stat cap again helps with that. I think, for me anyway, this will lead to much more variety in the types of characters I will build in terms of personality and motivation. I personally think it’s that which should determine whether a character multiclasses, rather than stats. But maybe that’s just me :P
